500 – What Should Not Be

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  1. dgriff13

    SPECTACULAR (*wink nudget*) piece guys. Happy 500 to you, Brock… and 200 to Marc! Love the panel with just the zoom-in on captain’s face, well done.
    I’m STILL so giddy that you both could work together!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Dawn, I still get a charge out of it, too. Thanks!

  2. hjones831
    hjones831

    WHAAAT?!?!?! Is that the Money Man?! Holy cow!
    And congrats on 500 strips!! Who’d've thunk it, huh? ;)

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Not me, that’s for sure. Sometimes I look at the SF Archive and it doesn’t even seem like something I did. It’s more like it just kind of happened. (Which, of course, totally sells short all the many, many hours I’ve put into this, but still…)

      • hjones831
        hjones831

        You’ve got talent in spades; don’t sell yourself short. :)

        Also, a note for Marc: I love how Cap’s hair reflects his feelings. Like a doggy tail! :)

  3. Mike J
    Mike J

    Well, I’ve been with Superfogeys since early on, and it just keeps getting better. I love seeing Money Man again! And the whole setup of this mega-update is awesome, even without any real intense reveals, it’s a great milestone and shows a lot about the characters.

    Brock, a job well done for the last 500 strips, I expect 500 more and 500 after that! And Marc, your art has been great since you took over and really adds a new aspect to it.

    • Mike J
      Mike J

      I should say, no intense storyline reveals as far as the current events. Money Man being alive, that’s straight up crazy surprise.

      • Brock Heasley
        Brock Heasley

        I’m glad you mentioned Money Man–because I thought that was a pretty big reveal! Thanks for sticking with us all this time, Mike. You are truly one of the original SuperFans.

  4. Tyler Heasley

    I always knew, I ALWAYS KNEW that if Money Man came back, he’d be sportin’ some major bling. The only fogey with undiminished powers, baby!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      The Money Man never leaving home without his diamond topped cane. That should be a lesson in presentation to us all.

  5. krheasley
    krheasley

    500!!!! This is so awesome!

    And man. Poor Soviet Sam.

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Sam? Why?

      • Tyler Heasley

        Remember Sam? The guy who curses himself every day for having KILLED Money Man?

        • Brock Heasley
          Brock Heasley

          He sounds familiar, I admit.

  6. Holaved

    What the…

    What…

    Doctor Who put it best when he said, “What. What? What??”

    (also, hooray for Sam?)

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Wait, now it’s “hooray for Sam?” You guys are really confusing me today.

      • Holaved

        Sir! To be fair, you and Mr. Lapierre broke my fragile little mind! ‘snot my fault if my first coherent thought was “Good news for Sam!”

        (Which you have now made me all paranoid about, blast it…)

        Where was I? Oh yes.

        …the WORLD is he doing with Zurida? Answer: Money Man’s real superpower is DIPLOMACY. First Spy Gal recruited, then her? I feel like Reagan, Churchill, Cicero, and Franklin would ALL find him a worthy adversary!

        • Brock Heasley
          Brock Heasley

          “DIPLOMACY.” That’s awesome.

  7. drew
    drew

    So the money man isn’t dead? So…….soviet sam can get some inner peace and become the hero he’s been trying to become!

    500 strips…

    CONGRATS it’s been a LONG LONG time since i commented but WOW this was amazing!!!!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Always good to hear from you, drew! As for Sam… he’s not exactly in the room, but if you think we’re not gonna get his reaction to this at some point, you’re (dead) wrong.

  8. Greg Bulmash

    Mind. Blown. Wife says you need to come over and clean the bits of my brain off the wall.

    Congrats on 500. Much fan love to you and Marc for the past, present, and future doses of awesome.

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Tell your wife I’m so sorry. Thanks, Greg!

  9. Aaron Wood

    Well done, both of you! Keep up the great work!

    On the way to #1000!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Thanks, Aaron?

      #1000? I can’t even fathom that.

  10. chaseman113
    chaseman113

    Wat?

    Also , still love the comic dude and Marc continues to amaze

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Agreed!

  11. Marcus
    Marcus

    Congrats on making 500!! :)

    Also great family bonding moment in this strip.

    Yet that ending… Did even Dr. Rocket knew about this twist ? :(

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      I can tell you right now… Dr. Rocket did NOT see this coming.

  12. Sam
    Sam

    WOW….JUST WOW!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      That’s what we like to hear! (Okay, read.)

      • Sam
        Sam

        This is the best strip yet, I mean there’s just so much to wrap my head around.
        I can’t wait to see how this will play out…please tell me M.M. is going to make at least one appearance?

        • Brock Heasley
          Brock Heasley

          Yes, I can guarantee that you will see Money Man in at least one more strip in this chapter. Possibly more. (I know the exact number, I just don’t want to ruin anything.)

          • Tyler Heasley

            He could mean Mega Matt.

            • Brock Heasley
              Brock Heasley

              Oh, Sam, did you mean Mega Matt?

              • quarktime
                quarktime

                Yeeeessssss, Brock…what DID happen to Mega Matt? *waggling eyebrows meaningfully*

                Congrats on 500 strips, my friend. This twist caught me by total surprise, but it fits. The Money Man needed something to pull his team together, just as Nick Fury needed a “push” for his Avengers — the Money Man dying was like some near-mint Captain America trading cards that weren’t in Coulson’s pocket.

                Sort of makes you wonder about Coulson…

                • Brock Heasley
                  Brock Heasley

                  Well, Marvel is making an “Agents of SHIELD” TV series (the pilot has already been shot) that takes place after Avengers and Coulson is the lead, so…

              • Sam
                Sam

                Yes, yes I did. And I’m a girl just for the record ;)

  13. Infamous Nefarious
    Infamous Nefarious

    Hairy Zeus on a traffic light….. The Money Man.

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Now that’s an image.

  14. Chip
    Chip

    Congrats. Who’d'a thunk it? I still check in every Monday and Thursday, even if I don’t comment so much. I love this strip. Great work, guys!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Always, always good to hear from you, Chip. I’m as amazed as you that we’re here.

  15. gnrrrg
    gnrrrg

    Soviet Sam’s angst has been for nothing.

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      I hope not.

  16. PassionPoet

    What the…. The MONEY MAN…. I’m still like WHAT THE HELL …………

    *speechless*

    Darn you now I have to wait a week…

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Sorry about that! Gives you some time to think though, right? Here’s a secret (don’t tell anybody though): there’s more to unpack in this strip that people are giving it credit for.

  17. Quin
    Quin

    And the only guy we thought who had actually died ended up surviving… (insert batman joke here)!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Isn’t that always the way?

  18. Champy-kun
    Champy-kun

    OMG! Well played sir, you got me there. Must said that The Money Man has been one of my fav char since I started reeding (I always thought that his way to “fight” crime was hillarious, intead of doing it like Tony Stark or Bruce Wayne using all that money to get some trinkets). BTW, why does Michelle has any idea of the time? Her line doesn’t fit quite well, actually she should be quite shocked since she has just be awaken… and saw an old CS, an old Tom and the green offspring of his ex-husband

    • Champy-kun
      Champy-kun

      Congrats for the 500th strip! It’s been a pleasure to enjoy such a great work! Please continue for another great 500 more!

      • Brock Heasley
        Brock Heasley

        I think I mentioned this in the comments to a previous strip, but you have to think Michelle has seen just about everything in her time as a superhero spouse and ex-spouse. I’m sure she was quite shocked when she initially got “not dead,” but her ability to adapt and roll with it is probably a lot great than yours and mine. She’s a strong woman in any case. She can get angsty later.

  19. sedated247
    sedated247

    Congratulations BrocK. It’s amazing to see what this has become after the My Space blog that is came from. The story line has taken exciting turns and the art (well done Marc) continues to amaze! Here’s to the next 500!!!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Thanks so much, Ryan. You were there at the beginning.

  20. Oracle
    Oracle

    Awesome! Congrats to both Brock and Marc. One of my favorites.

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Thanks, Oracle!

  21. Jeff Carter

    Hey guys, I just wanted to drop by and say congrats to you both on a job well done. The SuperFogeys has truly grown into a rich and textured superhero universe with an intricate narrative full of fun and mystery — not to mention all of the clever spins it puts on classic superhero tropes. Of course, I’ve known Marc for over 20 years and his cartooning work here is the best and most consistent I have seen. His action is dynamic and the facial expressions are always tremendous. I’m looking forward to seeing where the saga is headed. Congrats!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Thanks a million, Jeff. Marc’s work with you on Boxcar Astronaut was what first drew my eye towards his work and I’ll always be indebted to you for that. I haven’t known Marc as long as you (technically, we’ve never even met!), but I have to agree with you on his progression as an artist. I’ve always known he was good, but the work he’s doing now is just beyond anything I ever expected.

      • Jeff Carter

        By the way, I don’t know if you ever stated this but…do you know how this all ends?

        • Brock Heasley
          Brock Heasley

          Yep. I am, and have always been, working towards an end point. Some things I didn’t plan for have popped up along the way (that’s only natural), but the ending is fixed.

      • quarktime
        quarktime

        I liked Boxcar Astronaut. It was such a shame what those hackers did to that site. :(

  22. Valareos
    Valareos

    Panel 4… Panel 4.. omg.. is that an actual sincere smile on zurinda’s face?? My god it is…and if money man is there… maybe she is working on side of GOOD now???

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Anything is possible. Either way, there could be more to Zurida than at first appears.

  23. Chris Blanchard

    Wow! Money Man! I was so not expecting that. Just like 300, this was so worth the wait.

    Although, now that Cap knows about Jerry, does this signal the beginning of the end? Leading into the final battle between the Fogeys and the Third Man?

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Today’s strip certainly signals the beginning of something. Your guess is a good one. Jerry and the consequences of his action have served as the one continuous thread through all the chapters, and I’m sure that will remain true until the end. So glad you dug this one, Chris!

  24. Andrew
    Andrew

    Happy 500! Not only is Money Man alive and for some reason reminding me a lot the great Vincent Price in Edward Scissorhands – if he’d let his mustache go wild – but he’s in Zurida’s palace. Most interesting. I’m going to engage in my usual speculation and theorize this may have something to do with Mega Matt. I’m also very tempted to start over analyzing his use of “shouldn’t”. So many wild theories! Can’t. Help. It. (<= should be read in William Shatner's voice). Jerry isn't really evil, Thrice Evil switched bodies with him at some point and that's what the whole brain-scrambling implant thing is about! Jerry, Dr Klein and The Third Man, three identities for the Thrice Evil! *Whew* I feel better now. Just joking about that theory, but if it turns out to be right I will claim that I called it :) Also, very surprised Zurida let CS have his moment. It almost even looks like she's got a little bit of a smile in panel four. Thank you for 500 brilliant strips Brock! And a special thanks to Marc from all us fans for helping it get this far and keeping it going!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      You’re asking the right questions, Andrew. It’s not just that Money Man is suddenly there, what he’s saying is also important and worth examination. Loving the theories. I’m not saying a word, but I love the connections you’re making.

  25. Alecat

    Congratulations on 500 guys!
    I learned that Superfogeys had been updated yesterday through the sounds of expletives from the other side of the room. When I turned to my boyfriend to inquire what was wrong, he covered up his screen and told me to “CHECK SUPERFOGEYS”.

    We’re big fans of the Money Man, so this is pretty exciting. You have, however, messed up all my what-if-the-Money-Man-survived-and-lived-out-his-life-in-a-robot-suit story ideas!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Comment of the week. Of the month. Seriously, I love this story. That something Marc and I create could inspire that reaction… well, that’s just about perfect, isn’t it?

  26. Dierna
    Dierna

    First off congrats on the 500th strip.
    Secondly…buh wha?! Well uh…er…he’s certainly aged well….

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Has he? I see spots!

  27. Tad
    Tad

    Hi Brock. Now that I have two children, I have kept reading but stopped commenting. But I just had to comment on this one because I love it. Also, I don’t remember reading anything about Jerry revealing CS’ identity in the seventies. was that in an origin story or is this a new reveal?

  28. Random Citizen
    Random Citizen

    Okay the way money man, It shouldn’t be leads me to believe he’s from an alternate reality or something. Like one where Moneyman wasn’t killed because Swifty never traveled through time and never brought Megamatt to the moment in which he enraged Soviet Sam enough to kill Money Man, or the opposite this is an alternate reality in which Megamatt’s interference somehow saved money man. Hmmmm? *Thinking face* Or he never really died which makes sence I mean he was stinking rich he could dissapear for all this time without anyone finding him.

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Whatever turns out to be true, you’ve got some good theories going here. Points for you.

  29. devilflamejr
    devilflamejr

    What… I’m sorry; WHAT?! How, you- Well played Mr. Heasley, well played… And congratulations on the 500 :)

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Thanks!

  30. devilflamejr
    devilflamejr

    By the way, in panel 3… Is that Zurida showing just a small bit of compassion? Because pity is not something I think she’d ever show:/

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Pity is not her strong suit, that’s true. But we do know there are some things she cares about… so the potential for compassion is there.

  31. Lewis
    Lewis

    Put me down for this actually being Mega Matt who took on the mantle of the Money Man but knowing he never reappeared just hid himself away until this day helping from the shadows. Either that or he told Money Man about the future.

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Now THAT is a wild theory. I’ve always said Mega Matt will return… you posit he already has… very interesting.

      • Scott

        Actually Lewis’ explanation makes the most sense. Not that I necessarily think it’s true, due to the fact that Money Man was very “Bruce Wayne” and Mega Matt is more like a less cool Dan Hibiki, but Matt’s future-edge would be the most likely explanation of both how he got the cash and his ability to survive.

        • Brock Heasley
          Brock Heasley

          I had to look up Dan Hibiki. That’s a hilarious reference though.

  32. Amber Thompson
    Amber Thompson

    Deadman walking!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Zombie Money Man!

  33. Jesse
    Jesse

    Congrats! I can’t wait for the next 500! Also, stay cool and have a great summer.

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Don’t ever change, Jesse. Don’t ever change.

  34. anonymous
    anonymous

    So, when Sam finds out about this, is he more likely to kill Money Man accidentally in a rage over having been deceived all these years or accidentally in a fit of joy by crushing his rib cage in a bear hug?

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      I’d say it’s a 50/50 split.

  35. Chip
    Chip

    I only JUST noticed that Money Man has… 5 fingers! Am I late to the parade? Has he always had an extra digit? Is this an ominous occurrence? Hmmmm…

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      I was wondering how long it would take someone to notice that. I do believe you’re the first, Chip. There should be a prize.

      • WGC
        WGC

        What?!?!

        I just looked again. The closeup has one thumb and one finger, the last panel has 1 thumb and 3 fingers. Where is the 5th digit I’m not seeing?

        • Brock Heasley
          Brock Heasley

          You may need to look again… or hit refresh on your browser. Full disclosure: it’s a long intended detail that got forgotten during the creation of the art. What you’re probably seeing is a cached early version of the page that got replaced very quickly on the day the strip was posted. Not trying to cause confusion, honest.

          • WGC
            WGC

            Son of a gun! It’s there now!

            Magical!

    • Chip
      Chip

      Whoa! I assumed it was a mistake( though I secretly hoped it wasn’t). VERY cool! Cannot wait to hear why he has 5 fingers! And there should be a prize!

  36. Chris Watkins

    Absolutely wonderful! Loved this strip from start to finish. (The pencil and ink teamup works well, gentlemen!) Can’t wait to see what’s next–and to see Zurida get hers!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Thanks, Chris! I’d love to do art with Marc again sometime.

  37. tmcelmurry

    Man where was I last Week!!??!! How did I miss this!! Holey Canole…MONEY MAN!!! Somebody go, go now…get Soviet Sam…IT’S MONEY MAN!!!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Glad to have you back, Todd! I thought I’d gotten the word out to everybody, but I guess the social media net I cast wasn’t quite wide enough.

  38. Blackbeard's Delight
    Blackbeard's Delight

    Hard to believe Marc has been on board for 40% of the Fogeys. Congrats Guys!

    I want to see Soviet Sam react with such glee upon seeing a living Money Man, that he throws him a giant bear hug and crushes him to death. Shrugs and says “Oh Vell, serves right for faking out for decades”.

    You’ve done such a good job setting Zurida up to be a super hot green alien arch-villian, that I never imagined her to be a super hot green alien double agent.

    That family is going to be so messed up once the endorphins wear off. Pot-bellied Grandpa husband. Son older than you. I’d almost ask Zurida to put me back.

    “it shouldn’t be” – in a time travel comic, I’m preparing me to be extra confused.

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      “Shouldn’t be” is still pretty ambiguous at this point, but I’ll try, as always, to make the eventual explanation as simple as possible. More than that I cannot say, but I promise that SOME of the answers are coming soon.

      • WGC
        WGC

        I noticed that. I’m wondering if the Captain’s to blame for the way Jerry turned out? If he had treated him better…? If EVERYONE had treated him better…?

  39. Frank Zieglar

    So much has been said already in the comments that I’ll just go with…

    OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD!

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Heh.

  40. Michael Kinyon

    What has always cracked me up about the Money Man is that his monocle string just flies around freely and is not tied to his suit or anything else. I realize that’s a silly detail to focus on, but I have always liked it. Marc did a great job with it here.

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      I love this observation.

  41. Jande

    Brock and Mark, absolutely perfect 500th page. You’d think it was planned this way! ;`)

    Though I haven’t been commenting due to lack of time, I have been reading in spurts and retweeting when I notice. You guys are an amazing team. Looking forward to 500 (at least) more! <3

    • Brock Heasley
      Brock Heasley

      Thanks, Jande! And congrats to you as well. YOU left the 100th comment on this post! Here is your No Prize:

      Congrats again!

      • WGC
        WGC

        Ahhh! Would that be the coveted Marvel No-Prize? I actually won one once.

        • Brock Heasley
          Brock Heasley

          No way! That’s a real badge of honor.

          But yeah, I’m just shamefully ripping it off.

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